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Name: Dan Rogers
From: Connecticut
E-mail: Contact
I hope this email comes to the attention of Marshall Williams who wrote an article on small bore Wingmasters in Shotgun Sports 2007. In that article, there is a picture of a 28ga and three chokes. The chokes are threaded from the muzzle back. I'm trying to locate the same style choke for a 20ga Wingmaster and not having much luck. I'd appreciate any help. Thanks, DR

Admin reply: Hi Dan, The chokes shown in the 870 review are Remington factory original choke tubes. They can be ordered directly from Remington. The web page with the chokes is located at the site shown below. Just scroll through. https://www.remington.com/shop/Choke%20Tubes/c/SP-ChokeTubes Choke tubes can be found at www.midwayusa.com. Hope this helps. Marshall
 
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Name: Peter Filipsson
From: Sweden
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Hello!
I have to say i love this page. It's very informative and fun.
However, i live in Sweden and finding ammunition is very hard so you have to load your own. But it's difficult to find data for powders that we have in Sweden. But we do have vihtavuori N-110 which is similar to lil gun and N-130 which is similar to alliant 410. If there is any chance any one has any loaddata with these powders i would be most grateful.
Best wishes to all fourtenners!

Admin reply: Hi Peter, Thanks for your question. I was unaware that Vihtavuori did not provide reloading data for shotguns. I have located a shooter in Finland who reloads .410s with Vihtavuori 110 and will provide you the data in a private email. Thanks again. Marshall Williams
 
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Name: Michael Carr
From: Southern England
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Am I the only person having operational difficulties with Eley Extra Long 410 cartridges? The metal heads detach leaving the plastic tube in the chamber.
I was at a Simulated Driven Game event doing reall well when this happened.
I have fired more. Than a quarter of a million cartridges since I retired, 60000 of which were 410. Some 40000were Fiocchi magnums which never caused any problems. Having had guns for 65 years I do realise that guns get hot BUT there is no excuse whatsoever for cartridges to come apart.
The Eley shells break targets brilliantly but if they disable the gun. The recent difficulty took the shine of a brilliant day.
No point even trying them In a semi auto. Even when stone cold the second or third cartridge will fall apart

Admin reply: Hi Michael, Since you bring it up, I had a terrible time with them at the World Championships way back when. (2001?) My experience was so bad that Tim Witherspoon let me shoot his Fiocchis. Most problems were case heads expanding and lodging so firmly in the chamber of a Beretta OU, that the heads pulled off when I opened the gun. Also had some shells fired with very low report. Worst individual cartridge fired and the shot cleared the barrel, but the wad did not clear the case. Most unusual. Marshall
 
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Name: Andy
From: Australia
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Trying to identify a break open double barrel pistol given to me by my great grandfather, he called it a "rat gun" for obvious reasons.

Has "1880" inscribed on the side of the mechanism, online research leads me to believe it's a .410, Belgian made, possibly quite rare.

Most similar image I can fine is here: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSgUXnXQc9QxeVd3eejvTT lc1M4hqnyk35rtlbYKfvt2O8G-rBIW325MeKJpw

Let me know if someone here has some expertise in thirst? I'll forward photos of the firearm in my possession.

Note: local police firearms licensing officers have advised I can keep it in my possession legally without a permit.

Thanks,

Andy

Admin reply: I have an Australian friend who was originally a Kiwi, and he calls guns like yours "kea guns." Apparently New Zealanders used them to shoot keas to prevent their sheep killing ways. I have emailed your question to him to see whether he has additional information. Belgian gun makers often are very difficult to identify as many did not mark their guns. To add a tidbit of Australian trivia on such guns, in one episode of the Australian mystery series "Miss Fisher's Murders," Miss Fisher breaks into a bordelo and the madam menaces her with a gun very like this one. Such guns are useful, however, both as shotguns and as close range handguns with ball or slug ammunition. If you glance over the ALOOF, etc. articles in the first page menu, you will find a few bits on the use of .410 shot pistols.
 
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Ron Goodge
From: Hereford
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Recently bought an unusual 410 over and under marked 'ARMI-MAROCCHI-SPA'. It's a non-ejector, folding with a 'winchester' type under lever, (which will fit 3 fingers), double trigger with a sliding non-automatic top safety. Date stamp shows it to be 1979-80. Usual Italian proof marks but chamber length mark surprisingly'cam 82.6'! Only shot it so far with fourlongs but a 3 inch shell will chamber easily. Very comfortable to shoot. Any information gratefully received.
Thanks.
Ron
 
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Marshall Williams
From: WV, US
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If your 22/410 is a Stevens, it was made between 1938-9 (authorities differ) and 1950 when it became the Savage Model 24. There is a short history of them under the ALOOF, etc. page on the main page left hand menu,
 
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Rick
From: Tennessee, USA
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I just received a Stevens 22-410 and am curious about the age. It has the barrel switch on the side (functioning) and fixed rear sight. Any ideas?

Admin reply: If your 22/410 is a Stevens, it was made between 1938-9 (authorities differ) and 1950 when it became the Savage Model 24. There is a short history of them under the ALOOF, etc. page on the main page left hand menu,
 
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Name: Steven Hill
From: USA N.Illinois
Noticed that Mossberg bolt action 183k are being priced in the $250 range this is amazing for a $25 used gun from the 1950s and 60s glad to see them valued by somebody, Stevens 59a bolt 410 are also well over $225 - $250 USA Hello to all Brits and Yanks on this site (Ausies too)!!!

Admin reply: Mossberg Model 183K -- My first shotgun given me on Dec. 17. 1955. Cost, per aged memory, $24.95. First class gun of its type, and I learned to shoor Skeet with it. Current price is a little surprising, as there was a period when you could hardly give them away
 
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Name: Phil garner
From: UK. Doncaster south Yorkshire
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Hi on this 410 site you have the el.chimbo 410s. Can you still buy these 410s as new.
Am looking for a double s/s el.chimbo if eny one can help it would be much apreachated.
 
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Name: William Hutchens
From: Plainfield, Indiana America
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I have a 44XL Duplex Automatic. Overall length is 40 inches. Nice checkering on forearm and stock. I think it might be from Belgium. I am looking for any information on it. Also reloading information. Dies, papers, cases, etc. Any information from anyone would be appreciated. Thank You for reading this request.

Admin reply: Here is an extended comment which may help:
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=303890

There is some information on reloading .44 shot cartridges and shooting a .44 shotgun under the "ALOOF, etc" listings on the main page left hand menu. Take a look at:

http://www.fourten.org.uk/mwpre410.html

Hope this helps.

 
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